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Nocturnalnature
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PostSubject: Rat Snake and Racer   Rat Snake and Racer EmptyMon Sep 08, 2014 10:17 pm

I know we all take it for granted, but I guess its easy to see how the average person just assumes they are one and the same Laughing

Black Rat (or Eastern if you're new school  Very Happy )
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Black Racer
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Racer at the den site
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Juvenile Black Rat (full belly on this fellow)
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Juvenile Racer
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jw
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PostSubject: Re: Rat Snake and Racer   Rat Snake and Racer EmptyTue Sep 09, 2014 10:52 am

They are the same:
Photo 1 - It has a triangular head = copperhead
Photo 2 - It stuck-out it's tongue = copperhead
Photo 3 - Head is up "like a cobra" = copperhead
Photo 4 - All snakes with a pattern = copperhead

Great comparison shots! Just need a juvenile racer.
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Deedle
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PostSubject: Re: Rat Snake and Racer   Rat Snake and Racer EmptyTue Sep 09, 2014 11:45 am

jw wrote:
They are the same:
Photo 1 - It has a triangular head = copperhead
Photo 2 - It stuck-out it's tongue = copperhead
Photo 3 - Head is up "like a cobra" = copperhead
Photo 4 - All snakes with a pattern = copperhead

Great comparison shots! Just need a juvenile racer.

Wait I thought everyone called those cottonmouth's not copper heads lol.

I agree nice shots!
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jw
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PostSubject: Re: Rat Snake and Racer   Rat Snake and Racer EmptyTue Sep 09, 2014 1:06 pm

lol! Not near water = copperhead. Near water = cottonmouth.
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Nocturnalnature
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PostSubject: Re: Rat Snake and Racer   Rat Snake and Racer EmptyTue Sep 09, 2014 9:34 pm

jw wrote:
They are the same:
Photo 1 - It has a triangular head = copperhead
Photo 2 - It stuck-out it's tongue = copperhead
Photo 3 - Head is up "like a cobra" = copperhead
Photo 4 - All snakes with a pattern = copperhead

Great comparison shots! Just need a juvenile racer.

Good idea!
Original post edited to complete the set.
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viandy
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PostSubject: Re: Rat Snake and Racer   Rat Snake and Racer EmptyWed Sep 10, 2014 12:33 pm

Aren't you forgetting something? Everyone knows how them rattlers and black snakes breed together, might be one of their deadly hybrid offspring!
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PostSubject: Re: Rat Snake and Racer   Rat Snake and Racer EmptyWed Sep 10, 2014 12:52 pm

When they are near the water, I call them Great Whites.
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