Suprize 2014 ball clutch. What do you think?

surprise surprise. I was not expecting this.

Hey everyone.
These just started coming out today. 6 more to come.
I would love to know what everyone thinks.

Wow, definitely need pics of parents.

Do those parents have granite in them?

Any guess what the parents are?
Here's number 4! Super stoked I got 2 of these things. 5 more to go!!



Here is a side by side.

The mom has granite.

idk about the pairing but they look like granite spider, granite pastel, and granite bumblebee? was the outcome.

Thats what I would think as well. Only problem is I dont have any spiders.

Do you have any pinstripes?

no pins either

ok, im stumped.. lol. I've got granite and pretty sure about the pastel but other than that im clueless!

Potential for retained sperm?

Baby #5 should help things.

Here is baby #6
Loving the head pattern with the high "cheeks"? I guess you would call them lol.

Spotnose maybe?

Woma or leopard in it?

No spot nose but good guess no one has brought that one up. No to the leopard yes on the woma.

Another nice baby. Very very happy with this clutch.

Woma was my next guess!! I haven't seen many people working with the Woma gene that often anymore which is a shame because it's a great gene! So, the genes in those babies are pastel, granite, and woma? I still cant figure out the parents lol

I agree about with the woma statement. I like womas a lot.
As for the parents. There is a secret ingredient that is missing in your calculation. Its coming tho. lol

Enchi? Other than that I give up!

One more baby to go and its looking comfortable. So I thought I would throw a hint out there. This may be a game changer!

Last baby is taking its time and Im getting impatient. So..... Lets get in to the parents. The mother is the product of a Woma and a wild granite type and the father a pastel paired with a wild black belly type. Until this season I was unsure about the father.

What we have here are Woma granite pastel black bellies! Or Granite woma jackets! There is so much not done with the black belly gene. But.. This is just one more step on the path.

Nice! Blackbellies are new for me, nice combinations!

Take a look at Yellow jackets. You can definitely see the similarities.

Oh yea, definitely similar!

Do do cretin circumstances. I am (for now) holding off on the "yellow jacket" and "black belly" lable. These animals were produced with a black belly type animal from wild caught origins. I stand by my belief that they are one and the same.
I will be returning to this issue as soon as a pastel x black belly with no added mutations is produced.
Stay tuned.......

Anthony Giovinazoo

Congrats!