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leftoflarry VHS Moderator
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zues VaHerp Board Member+
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| Subject: Re: Native Virginia Herp Trivia/Identification!!!!! Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:46 pm | |
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DaganGecko VaHerp Board Member
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| Subject: Re: Native Virginia Herp Trivia/Identification!!!!! Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:22 pm | |
| There are many different subspecies classifications of garter snake. The eastern garter snake's latin name is Thamnophis sirtalis. | |
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Focal VaHerps Janitor
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| Subject: Re: Native Virginia Herp Trivia/Identification!!!!! Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:40 pm | |
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jw VaHerp Board Member+
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| Subject: Re: Native Virginia Herp Trivia/Identification!!!!! Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:44 pm | |
| The scientific name Thamnophis sirtalis encompasses 12 subspecies:
T. s. annectens Brown, 1950—Texas Gartersnake T. s. concinnus (Hallowell, 1852)—Red-spotted Gartersnake T. s. dorsalis (Baird and Girard, 1853)—New Mexico Gartersnake T. s. fitchi Fox, 1951—Valley Gartersnake T. s. infernalis (Blainville, 1835)—California Red-sided Gartersnake T. s. pallidulus Allen, 1899—Maritime Gartersnake T. s. parietalis (Say, 1823)—Red-sided Gartersnake T. s. pickeringii (Baird and Girard, 1853)—Puget Sound Gartersnake T. s. semifasciatus Cope, 1892—Chicago Gartersnake T. s. similis Rossman, 1965—Blue-striped Gartersnake T. s. sirtalis (Linnaeus, 1758)—Eastern Gartersnake T. s. tetrataenia (Cope, 1875)—San Francisco Gartersnake
To specify the eastern gartersnake the subspecies term needs to be included: Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis = eastern garter snake. (The only gartersnake found in VA)
The term "Latin name" is somewhat misleading as most scientific names contain both Greek and Latin components. For example: Thamnophis is derived from the Greek words thamnos which means "bush" and ophio meaning "snake". Sirtalis is Latin and means "like a garter".
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leftoflarry VHS Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Native Virginia Herp Trivia/Identification!!!!! Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:46 pm | |
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leftoflarry VHS Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Native Virginia Herp Trivia/Identification!!!!! Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:48 pm | |
| BTW: JW if you want to post some of your wonderful pics here as a trivia...please feel free. | |
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jw VaHerp Board Member+
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| Subject: Re: Native Virginia Herp Trivia/Identification!!!!! Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:04 pm | |
| Larry, feel free to use any of my photos for ID quizzes. | |
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MADKATTER VaHerp Senior Crew
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| Subject: Re: Native Virginia Herp Trivia/Identification!!!!! Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:05 am | |
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leftoflarry VHS Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Native Virginia Herp Trivia/Identification!!!!! Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:07 am | |
| - MADKATTER wrote:
- King Cobra
Hey that's MY LINE!!!! | |
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zues VaHerp Board Member+
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| Subject: Re: Native Virginia Herp Trivia/Identification!!!!! Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:29 am | |
| - MADKATTER wrote:
- King Cobra
That was going to be my second guess but I wasn't sure if they were native to Virginia. | |
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MADKATTER VaHerp Senior Crew
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| Subject: Re: Native Virginia Herp Trivia/Identification!!!!! Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:01 pm | |
| - zues wrote:
- MADKATTER wrote:
- King Cobra
That was going to be my second guess but I wasn't sure if they were native to Virginia. Well if they were native, I sure hope that they are scared away by the smell of poop, because that is exactly what I would be filling my shorts with if I were to run across one. | |
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leftoflarry VHS Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Native Virginia Herp Trivia/Identification!!!!! Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:39 pm | |
| What's so scary about this???? | |
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Don Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Native Virginia Herp Trivia/Identification!!!!! Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:04 pm | |
| - leftoflarry wrote:
- What's so scary about this????
That the person who photo shopped it, didn't do a very good job. | |
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leftoflarry VHS Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Native Virginia Herp Trivia/Identification!!!!! Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:12 pm | |
| Don, i'm not so sure this is photoshopped, king cobras are truly that big. | |
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leftoflarry VHS Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Native Virginia Herp Trivia/Identification!!!!! Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:15 pm | |
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Don Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Native Virginia Herp Trivia/Identification!!!!! Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:03 pm | |
| The bottom pic looks real. The other one - look at the hands. The hands almost miss the snake, especially the top one. Also look along where the snake comes to around his shirt tail. The shirt and snake look off, also true of the pants. Looks like photo shop work to me.
Also checked out Cobra Man. Did you see the red headed Krait? Now that is a cool looking snake. | |
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leftoflarry VHS Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Native Virginia Herp Trivia/Identification!!!!! Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:28 pm | |
| well perhaps you are correct. However, I do know king cobras do get that large.
Yes..the red headed krait is gorgeous.
Did you check out his bite injuries at the bottom? | |
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leftoflarry VHS Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Native Virginia Herp Trivia/Identification!!!!! Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:31 pm | |
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Don Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Native Virginia Herp Trivia/Identification!!!!! Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:37 pm | |
| Yea those bite pics are pretty bad. That is why I don't work with hots. | |
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leftoflarry VHS Moderator
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| Subject: Re: Native Virginia Herp Trivia/Identification!!!!! Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:03 pm | |
| Calculated risk. But yeah..these pics should make someone think twice about working with hots. | |
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